Cash out button flashing on Hot Peppers machine

[Shaggy]

In answer to your last question, I believe that was what Knagl was thinking about your SP chip number. 

Dave

[knagl]

Not so much a custom setting, but just different behavior depending on what SP chip is in your machine.  If someone has an SP731 in their machine and can verify if their cash/credit (cash out) button flashes when there are credits in the machine, that would help settle this once and for all.

If the flashing bothers you, you can try a different SP chip.  You mentioned you have a SS4709 chip, which is for a 3-coin Double Black Jack game.  That's a Type 0 game, and there are dozens of different SP chips that support Type 0 games.  You could always try a different SP chip (try one with a vastly different number, like SP1271) to see if the behavior changes.  A full list of known SP chips can be found here.

[Stayouttadabunker]

I would like to add that the SS4709 reel chip can be used for three other games as well as "Double Black Jack".
They are: "Double Black Tie"
"Double Red, White & Blue"
 and "Hot Peppers" - the strips and glass kit that is installed on this particular machine.

I installed two vastly different SP GAME chips to see if there was any difference in the Credit lamp behavior when credits were accumulated.
The 1st SP GAME chip I installed was the SP731.
It is one of the oldest SP chips I had on hand and I didn't see any unusual Credit lamp behavior.
The only that is "supposed" to happen is that the Credit lamp remains lit steady when there ARE credits accumulated.

I then installed a vastly different SP GAME chip into my S+ test machine which was also a TYPE 0 SP chip.
I wanted to try something different...
The GAME chip I installed 1st was the much older SP574.
Then I installed a later SP1271 chip.
Again, no usual Credit lamp behaviors and no "flashing" of that switch's lamp after installing all three different TYPE 0 SP GAME chips on my test machine.
In summary, I could not introduce the "flashing" deck button behavior into my test machine.

Can you verify for me the colors of the 4 individual wiring pin locations on that Credit button?
I want to know what wiring colors are connected to the two switch pins and the two lamp pins.
I am suspecting a possible incorrect connections on that button or something wrong with the door wiring harness.

There no events programmed into any S+ SP chip that can cause a deck button to "flash" intermittently as far as I can recall.
However, there ARE programming for the candle lamp to flash on top of the machine and another one.
I fear somehow that the flashing signals are coming through the door harness wiring and crossed somewhere with the display panel flashing signals for when the door has been opened without playing one complete game or the alike data signals that are intended for the candle for that event.
The two lamps that light up on an S+ display panel are the "Coins Inserted" & the "Coins Played" lamps.

Just for kicks, with the power off, disconnect the 3 door wiring harness connectors from the top of your MPU tray panel and reconnect.
Do the same for the left-most Molex connector that runs to the  candle.
Then lift up/remove your MPU board and re-install.
None of these actions will hurt your machine as long as the power is "OFF".
After reconnecting various Molex connections, power up your S+ and let us know if the flashing condition has went away.

Sometimes a data signal gets entered & stuck into the system and repeats itself over and over.
The only way to remove a "stuck" signal is to break circuitry or reset the machine back to original factory settings
and configurations via a Clear chip.
We've run into similar "stuck" signals before on the S+ platform before.
One that is quite common is the "61-1 Loop".

However, even with all said, I still believe there is a wire crossed somewhere in your machine which is picking up wire signals that were originally intended for the candle or display panels'  "Insert Coin" and "Coins Played" lamps.

Remember, the more you can describe and tell us - the better we can help you.
Pictures sometimes, can tell a million words as well.
Thank you.

[ctash]

Switch wires: yellow/orange and 2 green wires
light wires: blue/orange and 2 blue wires


compared with haywire next to it and it is exactly same. haywire cashout button stays lit.


unplugged and replugged all connections and no change.  this light was steady on before i swapped motherboard and power supply.  then it thru a 61.  I reset machine and it went away.  Then the light was flashing.  Still thinking maybe its something to do with the 61.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Lamp and switch wire colors are correct for that button.
Pretty sure the power supply is okay.
The only other thing I can think of at the moment lies with the MPU or chips.
It might be possible a pin in the suspect MPU that goes into the motherboard, is bent?
I'd be pulling the Hot Peppers MPU out and inspecting the male pins.

Without me going back and re-reading, did you try an MPU swap with the Haywire cabinet?
Don't swap any chips ( Haywire chips are a different TYPE)...just pull out both machine MPU's and try this "suspect" MPU in the Haywire cabinet to see if the "Flashing" Cash Out button behavior follows the MPU into the other machine.
If so, then we know the flashing behavior lies with this suspect Hot Peppers MPU.
Leave the motherboards where they are for now in their respective machine cabinets.

If the flashing behavior does NOT follow the MPU into the Haywire cabinet, then all we have to do after that is swap both chips  from the Hot Pepper MPU to the Haywire MPU to fish out a possible suspect chip pair or MPU problem.
Sound like a plan?

I have some other ideas but try these two first since you are fortunate to have two S+ cabinets.