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Games on board
« on: January 05, 2025, 10:44:58 pm »
I purchased a new board for my draw poker machine.  I had a board with one game, and now the new board allows me to play more than one.  I am unclear on how many games are on the board  The confusion is because of the main menu screen.  There are five games to chose from, but other games are pictured above the choices over the buttons.  Are they somewhere on the board?

I have attached a picture.

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Re: Games on board
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2025, 09:41:44 am »
Moved from "Homebrew Player Tracking and EFT Systems"  to IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games

What machine do you have? Please post a photo of your machine.
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Re: Games on board
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2025, 04:06:12 pm »
jmosser,

 It might be best if you can post a photo of your replacement PCB showing the labels on the main eproms and the "MRO, MGO, MBO and MXO" eproms.
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Re: Games on board
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2025, 05:25:59 pm »
Your new board is a superboard which allows you to run multipoker software (or use a wingboard) that has 5 poker games available. 

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Re: Games on board
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2025, 08:37:34 pm »
You can look to see what software is available for your PE+ by going to the Online Game Bible.
Its under Ricks FAQs. Please note that this is not the full list but what was available to us at the time.
BrianT one of our members has comprised a much more comprehensive list along with a matrix of compatibility.

PE+ poker games are comprised of.
Program Chip, Data Chip
MXO, MRO, MGO, MBO (which are 4 color eproms)
and a CAP (standard board) or a CAPX (Superboard).

Many of the Poker games use the same set of graphics chips .... 
....and you can get away with using the wrong set of graphic chips (colors look a bit off) and sometimes the card backs are missing (always best to have the right set to match the game)
This is why Brian created the compatibility matrix.

Some of the original games used only a Program Chip in the standard (non superboard) + The graphic chips.
All of the newer games used 2 chips.

Only the superboard can run the Multi-game poker set and certain other select titles.
The multi-game poker is contained on 2 chips just like any other title.

The WingBoard is an add on for the superboard and allows you to select 5 games (of your choosing) - It simply plugs into the program slot and has 5 program slots to fill.
The cavet is that all 5 games must use the same graphics and data chip.\
The wing boards are not that common so I would suspect that you are probably running a multi-game set.

The game from your original board could be put on the superboard just by moving the chips but you would need a CapX chip instead of the Cap chip you have.
Cap and CapX are not interchangeable.



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Re: Games on board
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2025, 10:42:18 pm »
Quote from: 63mini on January 06, 2025, 04:06:12 pm
It might be best if you can post a photo of your replacement PCB showing the labels on the main eproms and the "MRO, MGO, MBO and MXO" eproms.

The above advice is correct.

Your graphics EPROMs do not match the GAME and DATA EPROMs installed on your board.

The Multi Game chipset allows for exactly five different games. The game graphics and titles on the selection buttons on the menu screen should match.
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Re: Games on board
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2025, 09:22:26 pm »
Thank everyone for your valuable advice.  I intend to purchase the chip set that has the games on the screen above the games that are pictured above the games that are on the board now.  Where can I do this, and does anyone know what chip sets I need?  I have a PE + multi game board now.

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Re: Games on board
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2025, 09:39:55 pm »
What Program and Data Chip are on your board.  There should be a sticker on the top of the chips
These two chips hold the games. What you need is the correct graphics chips and associated CAPX chip.

I have attached a copy of BrianT's spreadsheet.

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Re: Games on board
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2025, 10:49:48 pm »
Here's all the known 5 in 1 sets:

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5 in 1 preselected Multi-Poker sets

Known compatible XMP Poker Programs:
   XMP00002
   XMP00003
   XMP00004
   XMP00006
   XMP00008 (International denominations)
   XMP00010 (International denominations)
   XMP00012 (International denominations)
   XMP00018 (International denominations)
   XMP00020
   XMP00024
   XMP00025 (International denominations & Auto Hold always on)

Known Multi-Poker DATA roms + CG graphics sets are:

XM00001P + CG2174
XM00002P + CG2174
XM00003P + CG2174
XM00004P + CG2196
XM00005P + CG2240
XM00006P + CG2174
XM00007P + CG2233
XM00008P + CG2228
XM00009P + Unknown & undumped
XM00013P + CG2296

Known to exist are XM00010P, XM00011P, XM00014P & XM00015P however there is no known dumps or documentation.

All Multi-Poker DATA use CAPX2174  (type Philips N82S147N)


NOTE: for XM00001P, XM00002P, XM00003P & XM00006P only:
  CG2294 + CAPX2294 works and adds custom The Orleans card backs
  CG2440 + CAPX2440 works and adds custom MGM Grand Detroit card backs


Information by specific DATA rom:


Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00001P) - Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00001P
CG Combo: CG2174+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 99.64%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
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Bonus Poker          P77A      99.20%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P200A     98.50%
Deuces Wild Poker    P34A     100.80%
Jacks or Better      CA        99.50%
Double Bonus Poker   P324A    100.20%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00002P) - Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00002P
CG Combo: CG2174+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 98.14%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P90A      98.00%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P251A     97.40%
Deuces Wild Poker    P62A      98.90%
Jacks or Better      BA        97.30%
Double Bonus Poker   P323A     99.10%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00003P) - Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00003P
CG Combo: CG2174+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 96.78%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P101A     96.90%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P253A     96.30%
Deuces Wild Poker    P47A      96.80%
Jacks or Better      P11A      96.10%
Double Bonus Poker   P325A     97.80%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00004P) - Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker, Nevada Bonus Poker, Joker Poker, Dbl Bonus Poker & Dbl Deuces Poker

DATA ROM: XM00004P
CG Combo: CG2196+CAPX2174
Game Program: Almost always found with XMP00002 but also works with the others listed above

Combined average payout percent: 99.22%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Double Double Bonus  P505A     97.80%
Nevada Bonus Poker   P503A     98.80%
Joker Poker          ZA       100.20%
Double Bonus Poker   P324A    100.20%
Double Deuce Poker   P236A     99.60%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00005P) - Bonus Poker, Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker, Joker Poker, Dbl Joker Poker & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00005P
CG Combo: CG2240+CAPX2174
Game Program: Almost always found with XMP00004 or XMP00024 but also works with the others listed above

 Combined average payout percent: 97.06%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P101A     96.90%
Double Double Bonus  P506A     96.70%
Joker Poker          NA        97.20%
Double Joker Poker   ?????     98.10%
Double Bonus Poker   P434A     96.40%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00006P) - Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00006P
CG Combo: CG2174+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 99.04%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P77A      99.20%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P200A     98.50%
Deuces Wild Poker    P62A      98.90%
Jacks or Better      CA        99.50%
Double Bonus Poker   P323A     99.10%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00007P) - Bonus Poker, Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker, Deuces Wild Poker, Dbl Bonus Poker & Jacks or Better

DATA ROM: XM00007P
CG Combo: CG2233+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 97.38%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P90A      98.00%
Double Double Bonus  P506A     96.70%
Deuces Wild Poker    P59A      97.10%
Jacks or Better      BA        97.30%
Double Bonus Poker   P325A     97.80%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00008P) - Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Bonus Poker

DATA ROM: XM00008P
CG Combo: CG2228+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 99.30%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P77A      99.20%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P200A     98.50%
Deuces Wild Poker    P34A     100.80%
Double Bonus Poker   P324A    100.20%
Double Double Bonus  P505A     97.80%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00009P) - Aces & Faces, Bonus Poker Dlx, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Dbl Aces & Faces Poker

DATA ROM: XM00009P
CG Combo: CG set is unknown/undumped + CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 98.47%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Aces & Faces         ?????     99.30%
Bonus Poker Deluxe   P200A     98.50%
Deuces Wild Poker    P62A      98.90%
Jacks or Better      BB        97.80%
Double Aces & Faces  ?????     99.20%

*************************************************************************************************************************

Superboard : Multi-Poker (XM00013P) - Bonus Poker, Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker, Deuces Wild Poker, Jacks or Better & Joker Poker

DATA ROM: XM00013P
CG Combo: CG2296+CAPX2174

Combined average payout percent: 95.80%

Game Type           PayTable   Payout
-------------------------------------
Bonus Poker          P596A     95.80%
Double Double Bonus  P507A     95.60%
Deuces Wild Poker    P57A      96.00%
Jacks or Better      P11A      96.10%
Joker Poker          P17A      95.50%
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Re: Games on board
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2025, 08:23:50 pm »
Quote from: jay on January 07, 2025, 09:39:55 pm
What Program and Data Chip are on your board.  There should be a sticker on the top of the chips

I'll echo Jay's question. What chips do you have now? Make sure that the power is OFF when removing or inserting your board.

You can alternately determine your chip numbers without removing the board with the following procedure:
  • With the main door CLOSED, turn the jackpot reset key switch once.
  • At the menu displayed, press the Deal/Draw button once for Machine Meters.
  • Turn the jackpot reset key switch six times to show the screen that looks like the one attached to this post. Let us know what numbers are displayed for your Data PROM ID, Game PROM ID, and Character Program.
  • Turn the jackpot reset key switch a number of additional times until you see the "Verifying game memory, please wait" message to return to normal gameplay.

Data chip XM00004P is the only Multi Poker set with Nevada Bonus Poker as one of the game options. You'll need that Data chip for sure. Depending on the other chips in your machine, that may be the only chip you need to change out.
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