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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2025, 01:33:37 pm »
Quote from: Chris-socal on June 14, 2025, 09:07:50 am
David, ypu do such beautiful work! Your attention to detail is amazing!

Chris

Thanks, I am just trying to get it correct, and if I screw up something, I need to have someone help me out. 
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2025, 07:47:19 pm »
Hello David ,I admire your tenacity to complete your slot project and its looking good so far, these are the only payout glass that I have
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2025, 02:35:04 pm »
Quote from: Bally Bill on June 14, 2025, 07:47:19 pm
Hello David ,I admire your tenacity to complete your slot project and its looking good so far, these are the only payout glass that I have

Top one will work.
Send me a PayPal request to david@wasillalocksmith.com

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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2025, 04:34:05 pm »
The reels are  intensive.
I've realized that the coin relay is not correct, It's missing a couple of switches.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2025, 12:09:26 pm »
Quote from: David Walz on June 16, 2025, 04:34:05 pm
I've realized that the coin relay is not correct, It's missing a couple of switches.

depends what game you are trying to wind up with.

most 742A's had a MBB switch on the coin relay ... I guess the idea was to make sure a fast activation of the coin switch tripped the coin relay and maybe in theory it made unpowering the lockout coil faster.  By the 808 tho, they got rid of the MBB switch. 

in practice, I doubt you'd ever notice if the thing didn't work right as long as the pole blade to the blade with the wire going to the coin relay coil worked (typically wire 21-1 to 83).

you have an extra switch on the left that a typical 742A wouldn't have, and you could use it to wire a switch pair that worked like an MBB switch or use the blades to make a double throw switch and adjust it to do MBB ... you don't really need the interesting blade with the bends and the mating extra long blade like bally used per pic below.

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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2025, 03:26:11 pm »
Quote from: wolftalk on June 17, 2025, 12:09:26 pm
Quote from: David Walz on June 16, 2025, 04:34:05 pm
I've realized that the coin relay is not correct, It's missing a couple of switches.

depends what game you are trying to wind up with.

most 742A's had a MBB switch on the coin relay ... I guess the idea was to make sure a fast activation of the coin switch tripped the coin relay and maybe in theory it made unpowering the lockout coil faster.  By the 808 tho, they got rid of the MBB switch. 

in practice, I doubt you'd ever notice if the thing didn't work right as long as the pole blade to the blade with the wire going to the coin relay coil worked (typically wire 21-1 to 83).

you have an extra switch on the left that a typical 742A wouldn't have, and you could use it to wire a switch pair that worked like an MBB switch or use the blades to make a double throw switch and adjust it to do MBB ... you don't really need the interesting blade with the bends and the mating extra long blade like bally used per pic below.

Exact same wiring that I am working with on my 742A  :thank_you: :thank_you:
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2025, 07:50:26 am »
I had a AHA MOMENT about the rejector armature.  :duh:

Well, back to the drawing board.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2025, 08:21:37 am »
Quote from: David Walz on June 18, 2025, 07:50:26 am
I had a AHA MOMENT about the rejector armature.  :duh:

Well, back to the drawing board.

you mean what is it, why it's there, what it's for or just want to see a picture of one?

like the MBB coin relay switch, bally got rid of it on models 808 and after.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2025, 08:27:52 am »
Quote from: wolftalk on June 18, 2025, 08:21:37 am
Quote from: David Walz on June 18, 2025, 07:50:26 am
I had a AHA MOMENT about the rejector armature.  :duh:

Well, back to the drawing board.

you mean what is it, why it's there, what it's for or just want to see a picture of one?

like the MBB coin relay switch, bally got rid of it on models 808 and after.

OK I'm awake, and now the pieces fit. Apologies for my brain fart.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2025, 06:14:12 pm »
Found the glass for the slot machine.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2025, 06:35:41 am »
More glass.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2025, 05:26:33 pm »
I need help.
I can't find the Unimax on off switch for the attendant. The door switches are plentiful, can some give me a part number maybe.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2025, 03:13:59 pm »
More adventures on the slot machine. The reel wiring is a difficult beast, and it's kicking my butt. I am pacing myself, taking time, and sometimes  :banghead: and have to redo my work.  :Scratch-Head:
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2025, 07:32:00 pm »
I got the belly glass in the mail.  :mail_2:
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2025, 10:04:53 am »
Well, it has been shaping up! I installed a new coin switch, the other one was goofy. The power cord is new, more wiring done, checking wires, I'm having to pull some wires that I missed, like the bell to tower wire. I put a plug in for the belly light.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2025, 10:10:28 am »
The belly light was cleaned up, new original bulbs installed. The trim piece is mangled, so I ordered up another one. The belly glass was packed really well, I am just glad it survived the USPS adventure.
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2025, 02:02:51 pm »
 :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

Another box came today. It's the reel glass, from 1967, for this 742a machine.   :mail_2:
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2025, 08:35:25 pm »
I figured out the wires.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2025, 11:13:42 am by David Walz »
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2025, 02:31:14 pm »
Reel wiring, going over all of the wires and ferreting out mistakes. I'm only human.  :duh:
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Re: Bally 742A 417 12/30/1969
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2025, 02:35:05 pm »
Working on the wiring inside of machine, finding out issues, I have a lot of parts, materials, wires, etc.

I still haven't found a attendant switch.  :banghead: :banghead:
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