Unkown Bally EM machine in need of a hopper.

[ChickenDave]

I have a Bally EM that doesn't have the hopper. No tag on the side and no sharppie marks. Nothing. It's a 30 beau plug. The numbers on the reels are 484-1253, 484-1254 and 484-1255. Does anyone have any thoughts or information for my problem?

[shortrackskater]

Once you determine the hopper model, post a WTB ad in the NLG classifieds. 

[wolftalk]

my docs say the 484-[1253,1254,1255] were used on model 742A-448 ... a "star special" machine built for the navy. 

If that's what you have, the reel tapes will have 7/BE (seven printed on top of a bell), 11/PL and target/OR symbols and it would be a short cabinet with no upper compartment above the reels.
 
I don't have the drawing for the payout counter disc (w-923-349), so an appropriate disc would need to be determined from the payouts on the glass.  Pretty much any hopper can be made to work with some plug rewiring and if necessary replacing the payout counter disc.

if you can't post pictures here due to size limits, email highest possible ("actual size" if taking on a phone/tablet) to slotpics@cdyn.com.  Entire front of machine and some pics of inside stuff is helpful, especially if there's relays on the reel mech.

the only "star special" schematic I've found so far is for a 742A-28C and it uses a 24 pin hopper plug ... and only 21 pins are used.  May be worth looking at the socket in the cabinet to see how many of the pins are used on your plug ... usually you can see with a mirror or take a pic without unscrewing the socket from the floor.

[ChickenDave]

Good morning wolftalk, You pretty much discribe this machine to the T. I appreciate the email address and I will send you pictures and more information. I tried loading pictures but couldn't "Files too big". I'm not sharp enough on the computer to change the size. Thanks, CD

[wolftalk]

the tough thing will be payout counter disc support for the 6 pay for two cherries and I assume the missing top sign.

pretty much any 25c bally EM hopper with the standard sized bowl (not the huge $1 hopper) should work.   If necessary, the beau plug on the hopper or in the cabinet can be replaced.

since there's wiring outside the factory harness, some work is needed to see why it was added.  You may find it's not needed and can use a 24 pin socket in the cabinet.  It's possible someone wanted more variety in the jackpot pays so needed more wires between the hopper and reels.

e.g. the 742A-28C paid 100 for most of the jackpot pays (3 bars, targets, 7's and plum/11's) and 200 for three stars on the payline.  If they wanted some of those things to pay 20, 50, 150 or something else supported by the payout counter disc, more wires would be needed.