Help Identifying Unusual Machine

[MazzKmazz]

     I've owned my Bally e-2214 for a while now, and I figure it's finally time to get some new glass on it. My problem is that I have no idea what the glass originally looked like, it's not gone or anything, just excessively sun faded. I'm almost certain it was once red, because it has some hints of it left over, but I'd really like to know the shade. The machine is a gross greenish-yellow hue that I'm sick of seeing. What confuses me about this machine is that it is clearly stamped as being produced in 1987, but to my knowledge these models were discontinued legally in 1986. Another oddity is the orange mechanical progressive display, y'know the ones with 112-some solenoids inside, similar to a panaplex display but mechanical. The reels consist of various jackpot bars and 7s, and the machine seems to have no title besides  "7777 pays super jackpot". This is very clearly a Bally machine, it has Bally tags and is stamped as a Bally. It also has Aancient Slots tags from the 90s, so I consulted some friends who owned a few old catalogs from them to see if I could get lucky, but to no avail. I have scoured the entire internet searching for a drop of information on this machine and have come up with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! All I know is that a few years back, a previous owner of my machine had made a post on here trying to get it up and running, and never came back. And yes, I did try contacting him, he never responded. This was well over a year ago. I have no idea what to do at this point besides just ripping another design off some other e series and having it made. Hoping to see some answers, image of glass attached below, as well as in my profile picture (she was my first slot)

[shortrackskater]

After about 20 minutes fighting with AI, I came up (well "it" came up) with an image that might be closer to the original! As you can see at the bottom, it created an entire new set of reel images! But you get the general idea. I could have changed that but AI is still very time consuming!
Maybe another member can ID the slot machine. Can you add a photo of the machine?

[MazzKmazz]

     Thanks for the reply, funnily enough, I did the exact same thing. AI gave me the exact same result, which I'm honestly pretty confident about though I'm not too sure about the shade of red. Here's a photo of my machine. For the record, the machine is an E-2214-22 and seems to be skipped over in every database I can find, more than likely because it's a very late machine, from 1987.

[shortrackskater]

     Thanks for the reply, funnily enough, I did the exact same thing. AI gave me the exact same result, which I'm honestly pretty confident about though I'm not too sure about the shade of red. Here's a photo of my machine. For the record, the machine is an E-2214-22 and seems to be skipped over in every database I can find, more than likely because it's a very late machine, from 1987.

That's a cool machine with the super jackpot! Let me get another member to check this out. He should chime in soon.

[wolftalk]

the fey book "bally slot machines, electro-mechanicals 1964-1980" has information in the back on bally models. and it says an E2214 is a 6 coin multipler, continental from 1982.

the shape of your cabinet agrees with that, but afaik bally wouldn't have made a huge change like making at a 3 line progressive while keeping the same base model number.

that implies your game was made in the aftermarket by combining parts from different machines.

if you look at the back side of your glass, does it look like it the artwork was kinda patched onto the glass in pieces? ... e.g. take the top section with the progressive unit artwork and graft in a lower section from some kind of 4 reel machine.

[MazzKmazz]

    That could very well be possible, I notice that some parts of the glass have an opaque grey backing, though I'm unsure if this is to block light or something. It's strange because the glass is stamped as 1987, and it couldnt have been used long because it had to have been taken into Aancient by 1994. The previous owner also said that his parents had owned the machine for about 25 years, but this could be an exaggeration.

[wolftalk]

yup, the grey or black masking was to block light when it's opaque.

attached is a picture of a E2214 from the fey book.   The main difference besides the glass is the coin tray on yours is different.

the odd thing is your glass looks like it has bally copyright text on it. 

assuming it's using the standard E2000 boards, then you also have the question of who had the ability to create the program needed to run the machine.

can you post pics of the cpu board and the reel mech?

[MazzKmazz]

Heres a few photos of my machine and its boards

[wolftalk]

the personality proms - the game rules and payout - are the two eproms with no label.  The bottom one (U13) in this case has code for the progressive jackpot unit.  U13 isn't used in most E2000 series machines.

I think you can push the test button 6 times and the display will show the personality prom id.  Maybe you can look that up in the rom database on https://www.coinslots.com/roms.php and get something, but not likely.

I dunno when bally stopped producing E series machines, but the list on california antique slots shows model numbers in the 2400's with production listed as 1989.

I also don't know if anyone besides the factory was capable of producing personality roms (producing not the same as copying), and there was probably a tightly controlled process including regulatory approval for the code in each one.

[MazzKmazz]

Unfortunately, I can't test anything at the moment. I bought my replacement power supply from K-Lar and I felt like I needed to re-pin the connector, so I took out all the pins (they practically disintegrated in my hands). I'm a procrastinator, so I haven't really looked much into finding the replacement pins, but from what I've seen they're not widely produced anymore. I would appreciate a recommendation for replacements.

[wolftalk]

got a picture to make sure?

iir, the machine uses molex, amp and beau plugs in various places.

the molex connectors that go into pin headers poking up from circuit boards are probably 0.156 or .100 (molex kk series crimp pins).  People who work on E-series games more may know the exact molex part number and whether you'd want the 18-20ga or 22-26ga ones.  You can get molex part numbers here, but need to buy them elsewhere. https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/products.asp?cat=86

[Kfrankie]

The mpu is the same 2847 board that’s in my e-2209. That’s also a weird set of reels.  A bunch of BARs with blank spaces.  Guess Bally wasn’t into stimulating the sensory cortex of the players brain by 1987 after O’Connell and the mob were run out of the Bally business.