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Author Topic: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)  (Read 42304 times)

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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2025, 03:52:17 pm »
Replacing the trim behind the bowl. Some idiot ground the trim.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2025, 12:08:58 pm »
Finally, the fuses are sorted out.  :applause:
One  was missing the cap, the 110V was missing the spring, it was a mess. I also cleaned up the exterior, filling in the gaps. I still need to clean up where I re-glued the cabinet.
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IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2025, 04:09:53 pm »
Another triumph! The 5ยข top glass came in.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2025, 08:28:29 am »
Amazing that the upper unit is perfect, nothing is out of place. It's nice to see a complete unit.  :Top_Award:
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2025, 08:29:52 am »
More of the upper unit.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2025, 08:32:41 am »
The National cam lock came in today. It's for the win override switch. National cam locks is what Bally used on all of the EM machines.
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IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2025, 08:33:48 pm »
Takedown reels.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2025, 08:36:04 pm »
More pictures..
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2025, 08:37:56 pm »
More pictures.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2025, 08:40:00 pm »
More pictures.
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2025, 08:05:56 am »
Going over the reel tapes, index reels I have this:

m-220: 758, 1249, 760
P-484:  642, 1007, 644

My issue is with #3 I've checked out the tape symbols M-220-760 and the index depths p-484-644 and they don't match up.  :Scratch-Head:
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Rowe Jukebox CD-100
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2025, 09:11:00 am »
This meter is what is in the machine. I just need one more meter.  :EmoticonHelp4: :EmoticonHelp4: :EmoticonHelp4: :EmoticonHelp4:
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2025, 09:18:38 am »
Going over the reel tapes, index reels I have this:

m-220: 758, 1249, 760
P-484:  642, 1007, 644

My issue is with #3 I've checked out the tape symbols M-220-760 and the index depths p-484-644 and they don't match up.  :Scratch-Head:

the "orange", "plum", "cherry" stuff in the right column on your paper isn't right ... where'd that come from?  I'm guessing reel 1?  The slot depths assigned to symbols aren't necessarily the same on each reel.

if you ignore the 4th column and just look at the numbers in the third column, you're ok. 

for example, position 1 on the tape is a PL and has a slot depth of 2.  Since this isn't a multi-line game and doesn't have scatter pay or other fancy pays, every PL will index into a depth 2 slot.  i.e. every PL puts the reel wipers at position 2 on the wiper board.

your paper says this for the symbols and corresponding slot depth/wiper positions:

OR = 1
PL = 2
BE = 3
1/BA = 4
2/BA = 5
3/BA = 6

that's what the bally docs say also.  Below is the reel board wiring diagram ... note the position numbers (= slot depths) and the symbols at those positions on each reel.

bally coulda left the reel 3 symbol->position mapping the same on all three reels and reel 3 wouldn't have any depth 1 slots.  They did that sometimes.  It woulda made more sense for consistency between reels and reuse of the index disc in a game with cherries on reel 3, but they didn't do that in this game. 

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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2025, 04:08:01 pm »
Going over the reel tapes, index reels I have this:

m-220: 758, 1249, 760
P-484:  642, 1007, 644

My issue is with #3 I've checked out the tape symbols M-220-760 and the index depths p-484-644 and they don't match up.  :Scratch-Head:

the "orange", "plum", "cherry" stuff in the right column on your paper isn't right ... where'd that come from?  I'm guessing reel 1?  The slot depths assigned to symbols aren't necessarily the same on each reel.

if you ignore the 4th column and just look at the numbers in the third column, you're ok. 

for example, position 1 on the tape is a PL and has a slot depth of 2.  Since this isn't a multi-line game and doesn't have scatter pay or other fancy pays, every PL will index into a depth 2 slot.  i.e. every PL puts the reel wipers at position 2 on the wiper board.

your paper says this for the symbols and corresponding slot depth/wiper positions:

OR = 1
PL = 2
BE = 3
1/BA = 4
2/BA = 5
3/BA = 6

that's what the bally docs say also.  Below is the reel board wiring diagram ... note the position numbers (= slot depths) and the symbols at those positions on each reel.

bally coulda left the reel 3 symbol->position mapping the same on all three reels and reel 3 wouldn't have any depth 1 slots.  They did that sometimes.  It woulda made more sense for consistency between reels and reuse of the index disc in a game with cherries on reel 3, but they didn't do that in this game.

Thanks , I have the book started on this machine.👍
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IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
Bally 809-ZZB   Bally 742a-447
Bally 1114         Bally 1090-29
Bally 809-ZZN   Bally 831-4Z
Rowe Jukebox CD-100
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2025, 04:12:50 pm »
Cleaning the reels,  :VomitingSmiley:
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Rowe Jukebox CD-100
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #75 on: September 30, 2025, 06:05:22 am »
I just wanted to thank K-LAR, Brent and Alan for the parts they supplied to me.  :thank_you:
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IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
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Rowe Jukebox CD-100
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2025, 01:25:45 pm »
Reel cleaning.
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Bally 809-ZZB   Bally 742a-447
Bally 1114         Bally 1090-29
Bally 809-ZZN   Bally 831-4Z
Rowe Jukebox CD-100
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2025, 01:28:11 pm »
Reel cleaning.
wasillalock@gmail.com
IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
Bally 809-ZZB   Bally 742a-447
Bally 1114         Bally 1090-29
Bally 809-ZZN   Bally 831-4Z
Rowe Jukebox CD-100
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525
Anyone can be a locksmith....... I am a master safe and vault technician. I live in Alaska where I drill a lot of safes. I have been everywhere in Alaska, north, south, east and west. I work in some of the harshest conditions in Alaska.

Offline David Walz

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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2025, 01:29:32 pm »
Reel cleaning.
wasillalock@gmail.com
IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
Bally 809-ZZB   Bally 742a-447
Bally 1114         Bally 1090-29
Bally 809-ZZN   Bally 831-4Z
Rowe Jukebox CD-100
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525
Anyone can be a locksmith....... I am a master safe and vault technician. I live in Alaska where I drill a lot of safes. I have been everywhere in Alaska, north, south, east and west. I work in some of the harshest conditions in Alaska.

Offline David Walz

  • Alaska the final frontier.
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  • Posts: 2966
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  • David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!David Walz Is an-NLG GOD!
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Re: 809-ZZB another project. (blame Wolftalk)
« Reply #79 on: September 30, 2025, 01:31:15 pm »
Reel cleaning. Broken clock assembly.
wasillalock@gmail.com
IGT S-Plus         Bally V5500
Bally 809-ZZB   Bally 742a-447
Bally 1114         Bally 1090-29
Bally 809-ZZN   Bally 831-4Z
Rowe Jukebox CD-100
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525
Anyone can be a locksmith....... I am a master safe and vault technician. I live in Alaska where I drill a lot of safes. I have been everywhere in Alaska, north, south, east and west. I work in some of the harshest conditions in Alaska.

 

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